In the second part of this
article (you can find the first part here) I would like to present the mutual aspects of planets in the
natal charts of each Wintersun member. It's very interesting to
observe how many important aspects we can find when we compare their
natal charts. It explains why the band didn't split up despite the
fact they had to struggle with obstacles for many years. As I didn't
want to bore anyone with too many details, I chose only the most
important aspects but I encourage you to analyse the birth charts of
Wintersun members and surely you will find more curiosities.
In Jari Mäenpää's
natal chart Venus, the planet of artistic expression is placed in
Sagittarius and conjuncts Neptune. This is the reason why Jari's
music is so epic and magical at the same time. The average song of
Wintersun is approximately 12 minute long. The arrangements are very
complex and they include a strong influence of oriental traditional
music. This is another manifestation of Venus in Sagittarius as this
sign is related to foreign cultures and majestic projects. As Jari is
an excellent guitarist and a very talented and ambitious composer, he
writes songs which are very difficult to play for other musicians.
Recording and producing the whole albums is very easy for him and he
can do everything on his own, but he cannot play his music alone at
the concerts. He found very gifted musicians to help him create a
band. It must have been difficult to find the right people who would
understand his way of making music, share his true vision and be able
to play his complex songs during the concerts. The first person who
joined Jari was the drummer, Kai Hahto and later Jari found a
bassist, Jukka Koskinen and a young guitarist Teemu Mäntysaari.
Early this year, Asim Searah, another guitarist joined the band as
Jari decided to concentrate entirely on singing during the concerts.
Let's take a look at the natal charts of the Wintersun's members and
see who are the people ready to play Jari's songs.
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| Kai Hahto, 31.12.1973, Vaasa, Finland data rating X (time unknown) |
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| photo by Jari Mäenpää www.facebook.com/jariwintersun |
Kai Hahto has got the Sun
and Mercury in Capricorn opposing Saturn in Cancer and squaring Pluto
in Libra, revealing that Kai is a hard working person who treats his
job very seriously. He probably is a perfectionist who is extremely
determined to achieve his goals. He is also very professional and
ambitious. Usually Capricorns are very patient and they can wait for
success. Struggling with obstacles and endless waiting for something
big is normal for them. They know that the right time will come and
will reward them for all the effort they put in their job. In the
meantime they work hard for their future success. Kai played drums
on the debut album of Wintersun and on Time I and he
could understand Jari's vision of making music very well. It was not
easy as Jari's songs are very complex and yet he succeeded. He must
be extremely talented as he has a Venus/Jupiter conjunction. This
aspect in the natal charts indicates a huge artistic talent and also
gives the opportunity to earn money on your skills. It's worth
mentioning that Kai toured with other bands, e.g. Nightwish during
the time when Jari Mäenpää was struggling with producing the next
album (which took years). The conjunction between Jari's Sun and
Kai's Sun and Mercury is very good for both of them, as they
understand each other perfectly and have the same approach towards
work. Kai's Jupiter and Venus in Aquarius oppose Jari's Mars in Leo
which is also a very good combination. Thanks to Kai's great talent
and skills, Jari can develop his ambitious ideas. Unfortunately, Kai
is not touring with the band right now as he is recovering from an
injury. Wintersun found another drummers who replace Kai during this
tour.
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| Teemu Mäntysaari, 7.01.1987, Tampere, Finland data rating X (time unknown) |
Teemu Mäntysaari has
also the Sun and Mercury in Capricorn, just like Kai. He must be very
patient, responsible, hard working and ambitious, too. Neptune
conjunctions with Mercury and the Sun show that Teemu has a huge
artistic talent and inspiration. The individuals with strong
influence of Neptune in their birth charts are able to create
extraordinary art works thanks to their ability to transform their
visions to reality. They are also very intuitive and feel the energy
of other people, even if they don't want to. Neptune, the planet
of illusions, dreams, mysteries and artistic inspiration, dissolves
all kinds of boundaries, including these between people. It's not
surprising that Teemu is able to feel Jari's visions and ideas so
easily and helps him make them real. We can find strong influence of
Neptune in the natal charts of actors, models, photographers or films
directors as these people can create a perfect illusion of something
which is very ordinary. Most of them have a magical charm, even if
they look quite normal. Their appearance is amazing on photos, in
films or when they are on stage. Teemu looks like a normal guy, but
when he is on stage, he seems to be a different person. During the
concerts he looks very magical with his long, flowing hair. Teemu has
also a Youtube channel where he shares his films from the current
tour of Wintersun. Thanks to these short films the fans of Wintersun
can see how the touring looks like. In this case Neptune dissolves
the barriers between the members of the band and the fans. Actually
Teemu is very active on social media which helps promoting the band.
He is 10 years younger than Jari Mäenpää so he understands the
world of social media much better. Jari openly dislikes some social
media and doesn't understand some ideas, e.g. using hashtags. Teemu,
instead, is a true master of hashtaging. It's worth mentioning that
Teemu also composes his own songs and gives guitar lessons via Skype.
According to his students, he is a great teacher who not only shows
the technique of playing that instrument but also inspires and
motivates them. Teemu's Mercury in Capricorn conjuncts Neptune so he
must be a very patient teacher who is able to explain all the boring
details in a fascinating way. On Teemu's films from the tour we can
see that he cares a lot about his physical condition by doing a lot
of exercises. It's very interesting as he has the Moon in Aries. Moon
in the natal chart shows how we rest and what makes us feel
comfortable, so no wonder that Teemu does exercises a few times a day
even while touring with the band. Teemu has Mars in Pisces so he is a
very nice and charming person. Usually the individuals with "weak"
Mars (placed in Cancer, Libra, Taurus and Pisces) are very calm and
kind. They hate fighting for anything so they not always get what
they want immediately. They might have an impression that they are
ignored by others, so they must invent another strategy of achieving
their goals. In most cases, their perfect strategy is being nice.
They are so adorable that everybody likes them and is ready to
support them. The individuals with Mars in Pisces tend to drive their
energy inwards, so they are not as expressive as others. Quite often
they have a great imagination and they are daydreamers. When I saw
Teemu performing live during the show in Warsaw, I noticed the strong
manifestation of his Mars in Pisces. Pisces is the sign of artistic
inspiration, spirituality, dreams and visions. While playing the
guitar, Teemu seemed to be somewhere else. It looked as if he left
his body on stage and sailed away to a fantasy world. He was very
focused and hidden behind his long hair and probably was
contemplating the music.
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| Jukka Koskinen, 16.07.1981, Riihimaki, Finland data rating X (time unknown) |
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Jukka, the bassist, has
got the Sun and Mercury in Cancer, but Moon in Capricorn which is why
he understands all the Capricorns in the band very well. Although he
differs from them, he can still follow their idea of being hard
working and obsessive perfectionists. The Sun squares Pluto so it
seems that Jukka is also very ambitious and determined to achieve his
goals. The individuals with Moon in Capricorn are very sensitive but
they don't show their emotions because of fear of rejection. They
seem to be very serious, cold, shy and introverted, but this is just
a kind of mask that they are wearing in order to protect themselves
from being hurt. Although Jukka seems to be serious and introverted,
the Sun in the emotional sign of Cancer makes him a very nice and
warm person. He has Mars in Gemini so he is quite communicative as
for a Cancer with Moon in Capricorn. During the crowdfunding
campaign, Jukka supported the band and gave online interviews and
chat with fans, patiently answering all the questions. His singing
talent was discovered during the recordings of The Forest
Seasons, Wintersun's latest album. It turned out that Jukka can
sing low growls perfectly, so Jari used this ability to record the
backing vocals. Jukka must be a very patient man who understands
Jari's true vision of making music as he repeated his parts of low
growls several times, even if it was perfect. Jukka has Venus in Leo
which trines Jari's Venus, Neptune and Mercury, so making Jari's true
vision real comes naturally to him. Jukka also sings backing vocals
during the concerts. He is very calm on stage and seems to be lost in
another dimension. The individuals born under the sign of Cancer
often are introverts, but it doesn't mean that they don't care.
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| Asim Searah, 26.10.1989, Lahore, Pakistan data rating X (time unknown) |
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| photo by Jari Mäenpää www.facebook.com/jariwintersun |
Asim, the new guitarist,
has got the Sun in Scorpio, but Mars and Mercury in Libra. As his
birth time is unknown, it is impossible to say whether he has Moon in
Virgo or in Libra. Nevertheless, it is obvious that he is totally
different from the rest of the Wintersun members and he brings fresh
energy to the band. According to the fans who met him, he is a very
nice and charming person which is typical for an individual with
personal planets in Libra. Asim seems to be very interested in
fashion and takes care of his look. The strong influence of the sign
of Libra gives him artistic talents and the Sun in Scorpio provides
him with the deep psychological insight and some kind of mysterious
darkness which is probably the reason why he became a heavy metal
musician. It's worth mentioning that Asim has also his own band. He
has Saturn, Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn so this gives him some
energy of this sign as well. The stellium of these planets is a
generational aspect as all the individuals who were born between 1989
and 1990 have these 3 planets in Capricorn. Because of that it
doesn't influence the character of each person that much.
Nevertheless, it's important when we compare Asim's natal chart to
the ones of the other Wintersun members. Asim's Uranus, Saturn and
Neptune conjunct Jari's Sun, Teemu's Sun and Mercury, Kai's Sun and
Mercury and probably Jukka's Moon (Jukka's birth time is unknown so
we don't know the exact position of his Moon in Capricorn). On one
hand, Asim is blocking the creativity of the other members of the
band (Saturn), but on the other, he inspires them in some way
(Neptune) and may show them new possibilities of performing live
(Uranus). He is much younger than most of the band members which is
why he has a different approach towards promoting music and to life
in general (he hasn't experienced the first Saturn return yet which
occurs at the age of 29 - 30). His Venus in Sagittarius conjuncts
Jari's Venus, Mercury and Neptune so he can perfectly understand
Jari's visions of making music and despite he is a bit different, he
fits to Wintersun perfectly. It's worth mentioning that Asim was a
fan of Wintersun and met the band members in a music shop in
Helsinki. He became their friend and later joined Wintersun. Asim's
Jupiter is at 10 degree of Cancer, so it opposes all the planets in
Capricorn of the other members of the band. It explains the fact that
he was chosen as a new guitarist.
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| Jari Mäenpää, 23.12.1977, 06:00 a.m., Helsinki, Finland data rating A (from memory) |
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| photo by Sławek Skuta www.facebook.com/SkutaPhotography |
Let's have a quick look at
the natal chart of the founder of Wintersun, Jari Mäenpää , as
there are still some important details worth mentioning. He has Mars
in Leo which makes him a perfect entertainer. During the concerts
Jari is very energetic and extremely expressive. He has also a
fantastic contact with the fans and he encourages everyone to have
fun and participate in the show. All the individuals with Mars in Leo
need the admiration and recognition of others. They are born to
perform for large audience and entertain other people. Obviously not
everyone with Mars in Leo is an artist, but Jari is the lucky one so
in his case the energy of Mars in Leo can be used in a perfect way.
Watching Jari performing live on stage is a fantastic experience. He
seems to have as much fun as the Wintersun fans. Right after the show
in Warsaw he thanked all the fans for coming for the concert and he
seemed to be very grateful. I love going to the concerts and I have
seen many, but for the first time in my life I witnessed the
situation when an artist was so happy during the show. I'm not
sure who had more fun during the concert, the fans of Wintersun or
the band itself (especially Jari). The love of the fans is the
greatest reward for all the struggling that Jari had to go through
during last years. Nevertheless, Jari's chart clearly shows that he
is not always so open to people as he is on stage. He has a
Moon/Saturn square which is why he is an introvert and can even be
very shy. Moon in astrology describes our feelings, family, childhood
and home. Saturn is the planet of limitations, strictness, time,
obstacles and wisdom. The energy of Moon and Saturn is very different
so when these planets create an aspect in the natal chart, it always
brings emotional issues (although it depends on the nature of aspect,
as trine and sextile are harmonious ones so they don't bring
suffering). Jari loves his fans but he needs to be left alone from
time to time. He is not always sociable and sometimes he is sick of
people and wants to be left alone. The Moon/Saturn square is a bit
similar to Moon in Capricorn, so Jari probably hides his emotions
because of fear of being hurt. He also protects his privacy. Nothing
is known about his private life and it should stay a secret. You
should never talk about private things nor emotions with a person
with the Moon/Saturn aspects. It will make her/him angry and
frustrated. Most of the individuals with these aspects feel lonely
and rejected. It's quite difficult for them to create a good
relationship until they are 30 years old and it makes them feel
miserable. They are desperately searching for answers as they want to
know why they are so lonely and sad when other people around them are
happy and can create good relationships. This research quite often
awakes an interested in psychology and sometimes even in the esoteric
knowledge. Most of the individuals with these aspects become very
good psychologists. The Moon/Saturn square brought Jari a lot of
suffering but it also became an artistic inspiration, adding
Saturnian darkness, loneliness and frustration to his music and
lyrics.
It's
worth mentioning that Saturn will be transiting the sign of Capricorn
from December 20, 2017 to March 22, 2020 and from July 2, 2020 to
December 17, 2020. The individuals born under the sign of Capricorn
but also Aries, Libra and Cancer may experience some obstacles and
annoying delays in realising their goals. They will have to work
harder than usually and will have to take extra responsibilities.
They should also take an extra care about their health and
mental condition. The transit of Saturn through
Capricorn is also very important for all the individuals who have
Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars or the angles in the cardinal signs
(Capricorn, Cancer, Libra, Aries). They may face some problems and
limitations, too. The positive side of Saturn transits is building
solid structures for the future projects. Saturn rewards all the hard
working and responsible people, so they may expect a recognition for
what they have done in the past. Let's hope that Saturn will allow
Wintersun to build a stable position at the music market.
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| photo by S. Skuta www.facebook.com/SkutaPhotography |
I truly recommend seeing
Wintersun live as this is an unforgettable experience. I've never
seen a band who would be playing such a complex music on very high
level, treat the concert very seriously and had so much fun during
the show at the same time. Wintersun seem to be very devoted to
their fans. Unfortunately, I have seen some artists who were quite
arrogant during their concerts, that's why the positive attitude of
Wintersun blew my mind completely. Their concert was full of
energy, great music and fun.
Special thanks to Anna Solun from Wintersun UK, Wintersun España, Wintersun Fans, Wintersun Madness i Wintersun South Africa for providing a very detailed information about Wintersun and co-writing this article with me.
